why no i think we should let the socialist obama and his like running my life, my business, my banks - i don't need my guns or even the right to have them. i surely don't need any income - the socialist govt will ensure that i get food and a place to live - even at a reduced interest rate! and if i can't make the payments, it's ok, the socialist regime will just lower the interest and take of it for me. and if i get sick - no problem, i just put my name on the national "i'm sick" list and wait my turn for the socialist healthcare system to get me seen by their choice of medical providers. energy? won't really matter much to me because the socialist govt folks will control all that, all i have to do is what i'm told - no thought required - after all if lord obama and his gang says it's good - it must be...and we surely can't question their wisdom - after all, it took him an entire 147 days in govt service to learn it all...

ps - if you seriously don't think you've been being spied on for ohhhhh say at least the last 25 years that i know of personally, then you've not been paying attention.....it's not really news.....

More unsubstantiated accusations spread by the desperate Republicans. All the claims of Rousselot have proven spurious and falsehoods in nature...

http://mediamatters.org/items/2008100...

There is a FALSE rumor going around by e-mail telling people that if they vote Straight Democratic Party, they must also cast a vote specifically for Barack Obama in order to have an Obama vote registered. THIS IS FALSE INFORMATION probably initiated by Republican dirty tricksters, but now being spread by well-meaning Barack Obama supporters.The truth is that if you cast a Straight Democratic Party vote, you will be voting for Barack Obama and your Straight Democratic vote will count as a vote for Obama. But if you then go down and “vote” for Obama, you may actually be cancelling your Obama vote. Don’t be fooled: Just cast a Straight Democratic Party vote and that will get Obama and all the Democratic candidates up and down the ballot.

lol like we're the ones telling everyone how to vote..........man, i'm tellin ya when socialism rears its self, it kicks up all kinds of stuff..... ya'll don't think now, just pull that dem lever and you socialist govt will take of everything.....

McCain owns 9 houses and a private jet, and has no memory regarding his homes and probably other things. Do you really think he cares about you or the poor people of this country...or even remembers anything he says?

Did you know that you can put a frog in cold water and put in on a flame? He will not get out because the water warms up slowly and then turns to a boil. To late...How ever if you put the frog directly in hot water he will quickly jump out sensing the danger. Is this what is happening to the American People, are they the frog in the water that slowly heats up to a boil? Everything is happening so gradually that it feels as if many people have lost the ability to think?

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What a despicable liar McCain is, would you like to see Obama's $3 Million "overhead projector...

Look
http://gizmodo.com/5060946/barack-oba...

It's Pitiful how Republicans try to spin something good into something evil.

Everytime the Republicans see their ship going down they yell 'socialism'. Actually it's their candidate McCain that sounds like the real socialist, with his buying up all the bad mortgages plan (which is already in the bailout plan passed by congress giving the Treasury that authority). Meanwhile, Obama is advocating investment. During the next few days left in the campaign it should not surprise any of us what the desperate McCain-Palin ticket will try to throw on the wall to get to stick. Let's see in the next debate if Senator McCain has the guts this time to bring up the false Ayers related accusations directly to Senator Obama, instead of using the surrogate Palin to do it in front of the partisan mobs attending her rallies.

I must have missed something. Was it not President Bush XLIII who said we need this Bailout Package? He's GOP, right?

The Socialists are already in power, but they go by GOP, not Democrat. Someone got their facts misplaced.

its very interesting to be how there seems to be a different, "buzzword" for obama every week and every republican uses it at the same time. The word this week is, "socialist." It is very interesting that everyone uses the same word in the same week..do you guys have a calendar or is it an email list?

Yep, the Republicans are grasping at anything they can these days. McCain's plastic wife is even jumping in. They actually think people will believe the ridiculous, racist undercurrents they are trying to spin. It just reinforces why so many people are tired of the Repubs and their nasty ways.

Whenever the Republicans realize that people are catching on to their greedy, self-serving ways, they start screaming "socialism" as a smoke screen to cover it up. Or, as Bush does, yell "terrorism" at every opportunity.

Obama's suggestions (and for now, that's all they are, since Congress has to pass them before they can ever become law) are hardly "socialist". They engage the US government in helping the average person a bit more than the Republicans' welfare for big corporations and huge tax breaks for the wealthy, but they certainly won't turn our country socialist. What the Republicans have been pushing, such as wire-tapping and spying, have pushed the country toward fascism, or at least autocracy. Is that somehow better?

I am ready for a change from the Republican lies and smoke screens. I want to see our government balance its budget, get us out of Iraq (we shouldn't have been there in the first place), and take measures to help the American people, not the big corporations and the superrich. McCain would just be four more years of Bushonomics. I'm willing to give Obama a chance. If he doesn't work out, he can be replaced in four years, like every other president.

OBAMA BIDEN '08

I'm sick and tired of the Republican brand of capitalism and free enterprise. If somebody wants to call that socialism, so be it. At least, maybe us plain middle class folks will finally have a voice.

Here's the truth about Obama's involvement in the lending debacle, per Snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...

Read one today, basically says:

Obama
Endorsed, lobbied for $5 Trillion "Bailout" and will continue to bailout international banks.

McCain
Endorsed, lobbied for $5 Trillion "Bailout" and will continue to bailout international banks.

Obama
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens.

McCain
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens.

Obama
Use Military as world police.

McCain
Use Military as world police.

Obama
Supports GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO and similar "free trade" deals.

McCain
Supports GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO and similar "free trade" deals.

Obama
Supports the UN.

McCain
Supports the UN.

Obama
Will not move towards elminiation of the personal income tax or the IRS.

McCain
Will not move towards elminiation of the personal income tax or the IRS.

The wasted vote is when you vote for someone you know will lead the country towards bigger govt, socialism, globalism, corporatism, foreign intervention, reduction of constitutional liberty...

If Stalin and Hitler were running, Jesus would lose because he's a 3rd party candidate and the people would pick Stalin because he's not as bad as the other guy.

And purchasing peoples houses is not socialism? This was a bad idea - not sure it could bring value to our "Balanced Budget"... what ever happened to this amendment..

How about that Governor Palin???

Palin's abuse of power, now an OFFICIAL finding from a BIPARTISAN panel in her home state. She is dishonest, and now is irrelevant. Call McCain a Vampire; Palin is his silver stake. Goodbye McCain after being caught in with the "this one" statement (tripping him into the coffin) this scandal should give obama Ohio and Florida
and increase his margin in the polls
may this republican nightmare be over

I guess the McCain-Palin ticket is toast now with Palin found to have abused the powers as Governor in Alaska. She is the new Spiro Agnew with not even becoming Vice President. It's going to be a long eight years for the Republicans as they lose the House, Senate, and Presidency. At least the Republican icon Rush Limbaugh will have something to blather about as he did during the Clinton Presidency.

I think she thought Alaska was such a small-town state that it wouldn't matter that she tried to use her political influence to get the guy fired. Monegan states that trooper Mike Wooten didn't do anything under Monegan's watch to deserve firing. Palin and her husband both apparently repeatedly asked Monegan and other staffers why Wooten hadn't been fired, and they were told that the investigation was confidential. They kept pushing and pushing and pushing. I doubt Mike Wooten was the only state trooper in Alaska whose behavior was less than exemplary, and I doubt Todd and Sarah Palin took such a keen interest in any state trooper who was not previously married to Sarah's sister.It's pretty clear she is guilty. The question now becomes, will McCain keep her on the ticket, given that abuse of power is a pretty serious crime and that they're going to lose the confidence of at least SOME of their following over this

Has it come down to a complete state of denial on your part? Can't you see the handwriting on the wall? It's all but over for the McCain-Palin ticket. Everything points to a decisive Obama victory in November.

McCain has lost much more than the race, he's lost his credibility. Many of his party our heartsick that he "mavericked" this choice against all common sense. He got his initial "bump", but the truth is hard to avoid forever.

His is a joke.

It's again unfortunate to see another Democrat throw out the race card again today. Congressman Lewis today brought it out again. He wants to blame John McCain for all of the bad feelings and hatred going on today. Unfortunately when you don't bring anything to the table, this is what you have to resort to. Hopefully, the next time John McCain feels like supporting Lewis like he has in the past, he will think twice.

As for Obama's financial policies, they are doomed to fail. Does anyone actually believe that big business will just set there and absorb more taxes? If Obama hits them with more taxes, they will inturn make moves such as job layoffs, cutting programs such as R&D, or moving jobs out of country. It wil happen, there is no if. Ritch people are not going to stand around and let the government move in and take their money. They will find ways to hide their money and move it offshore. Also, to say that most small businesses make lest than $250K is just nonsense. There are going to be allot of small businesses destroyed if this is put into place.

One real question I do have for Obama supporters is about Bill Ayers. Does it not bother you that a Bill Ayers could have some sway at the White House. Here is a man who tried to kill police officers and our service members. Does that not bother you at all? Does it not bother you that a man who is not sorry for the fact that he bombed police stations and even a private residence that had children there? Maybe that doesn't bother you, but it scrares me to death that Bill Ayers could one day be walking that halls of the White House. That would be the ultimate insult to all of our public servants.

We are screwed no matter who wins.

"One real question I do have for Obama supporters is about Bill Ayers. Does it not bother you that a Bill Ayers could have some sway at the White House. Here is a man who tried to kill police officers and our service members. Does that not bother you at all? Does it not bother you that a man who is not sorry for the fact that he bombed police stations and even a private residence that had children there? Maybe that doesn't bother you, but it scrares me to death that Bill Ayers could one day be walking that halls of the White House. That would be the ultimate insult to all of our public servants."

You see folks, another example of the spurious assumptions that the Republicans have to resort to. Never mind that the idea of Ayers walking the halls of the White House is idiotic in the first place, but just bringing the idea up, is hoped by the Republicans to plant the seed of 'doubt' in a voter's mind. McCain's own supporters boo him at campaign rallies now if the candidate doesn't echo the falsities that the fringe elements dream up. This is a symptom of a dying campaign on the part of the McCain-Palin ticket. Oh yes, it will get worse in the coming days before the election. Look for the most rediculous accusations to come out looking for something to stick. The desperation will follow the election with thousands of lawyers hired by the RNC fanning out across the country looking for voting fraud in every knook and cranny.

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Your claims are as far-fetched as those that claim McCain is a close buddy, and "pals around" with known Mafia bosses such as Joseph Bonanno. Why was John McCain invited to mob boss Joe Bonanno's 90th birthday party? Will we have the mob running the White house? We should investigate that connection because the voters deserve to know.

Republicans need to be careful if they want to play the 'guilt by association' game, because two can play at it, as is brilliantly pointed out in...

http://blog.reidreport.com/2008/10/tw...

Shorebreak,

It's funny how you, like Obama, never actually answered the question. I still want to know what you think about this guy Ayers who tried to kill police officers and our service members. You say it is idiotic to think that this guy could one day walk the halls of the White House. Is he not an associate of Obama? Has Obama ever told us that he no longer will or has any ties to Bill Ayers? Maybe you think this is no big deal, but I think it is really important.

I would like to see more information on John McCain's relationship with Sproul & Associates. Republicans should be familiar with Sprouls. Sprouls and Associates has been investigated numerous times for voter registration fraud. Tactics included bullying, changing the locations of voting precints at the last minute, shredding Democratic voter registrations obtained in registration drives. You know, exactly what you guys accuse ACORN of doing. Meanwhile, you are trying to connect Obama to acts Ayers committed some 40 years ago, when Obama was just eight years old. Here’s what the New York Times reported on the connection: But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.” There is simply nothing there and this smear campaign is merely an an attempt to distract the voter's mind from the main issue of the campaign, the economy.

"I still want to know what you think about this guy Ayers who tried to kill police officers and our service members."...

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.

What I think of Ayers, in particular, has no bearing on the subject. Ayers was never convicted of a crime. He went on to earn a doctorate, write 14 books. Ayers is not running for President and Republicans are looking for another 'Willie Horton' moment, that's all.

So what you are saying is that it doesn't matter to you about Ayer's. So if McCain had ties to somebody like David Duke, you would say that didn't matter either. No, I have no information that McCain does have ties to Duke. I am just using that as an example. However, you wouldn't care if McCain had ties to someone who use to be the Grand Wizard of the KKK. So according to you, as long as the person you are associated with is not actively participating in something as despicable as that at the time you associate with them, then it doesn't matter. As long as we get that straight.

As for Ayers, this is the same guy that after 9/11 said that the terrorists didn't do enough. So, I couldn't care less about how many degree's he has or books he has writtin. He is still and alway will be an attempted cop killer in my eyes. ALthough the government messed up the case, which is the reason he got off, doesn't mean that what he did doesn't matter. I for one despise cop killers and those who would kill our service members.

Although, Obama condemned the actions of the group, he never condemned the man who did the acts. Also, he stopped short of saying he had severed ties with Bill Ayers. Again, that really disturbes me that Bill Ayers could actually have a chance of being invited to the White House. That would be the ultimate insult.

You see, megawatt, you have to resort to personal attacks when you can't make a factual point. That confirms you are just not worth returning an answer to any of your comments.

Give me precise evidence that Ayers has any political influence in the Obama campaign, that Obama has worked with Ayers on any terrorist acts, that Obama has any firm political arrangements with Ayers. If you cannot present the case, just go back into the fringe hole with megawatt.

McCain has much closer, more direct, and more recent connections to terrorists who committed acts far worse than Ayers, yet McCain's links to "unrepentant terrorists" are completely ignored by the media. Although Obama has forcefully condemned the past actions of Ayers, John McCain has never denounced his terrorist friends. In the 1980s, McCain personally funded a guerrilla group (the Contras) that engaged in terrorist acts. Just last year, McCain expressed how "proud" he was of an ex-felon who urged shooting law enforcement agents in the head (G. Gordon Liddy). And earlier this year, the McCain campaign trumpeted the endorsement of a man who illegally provided weapons and money to terrorists; when a reporter questioned this, the McCain campaign refused to even criticize this criminal (Oliver North). In February 1988, the Washington Post reported that McCain personally (and relatively "recently") gave the Contras $400. No one can doubt that acts of terror were committed by the Contras. Human Rights Watch concluded in 1989 that "the Contras were major and systematic violators of the most basic standards of the laws of armed conflict, including by launching indiscriminate attacks on civilians, selectively murdering non-combatants, and mistreating prisoners." Human Rights Watch also criticized acts of terror by the Sandinista government, but called the Contras "a force that has shown itself incapable of operating without consistently committing gross abuses in violation of the laws of war."

The following article and link will give you some facts that John McCain seems to forget, conveniently, whenever he is questioned on the matter ... OR he changes the subject or diverts the question, strangely enough just like Sarah Palin seems to do whenever she is questioned too closely on matters that SHE prefers to forget as well. Is not the Elephant the symbol of the Republican party? Aren't elephants known for their FANTASTIC memories? Perhaps the Republicans and Democrats should swap mascots!McCain Linked to Group in Iran-Contra Affair. In the 1980s, McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.i....

lets try the link again....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.i...

Indeed, it seems the Republican nominee for President has some serious explaining to do regarding his association with a terrorist group.

Yes it is time for John McCain to talk about his connect with the Iran Contra Affair and to also talk bout the Nazi's who were at the hub of its organization in South American. McCain makes dangerous and troubling decisions, knowingly and willingly, often shooting from the hip as it were. It is no time for a man, John McCain, who is not forward thinking enough to weigh the consequences of his actions. Graduating near the bottom of his class and a self proclaimed maverick whose "spontaneity" as compromised the the American Democracy are neither one good references for the top job in the land. More than once in his political history, John McCain has made bad judgments and should have to explain his involvement with Iran Contra and the Keating 5. "I didn't know." is not an explaination".

Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. That's the extent of his interactions with ACORN. If he is guilty of associating with a so-called radical organization, then so is the US DOJ.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20...

It's not really ACORN. It just another republican sleaze tactic like they've used in Florida and Ohio....

How did Bush win the election that he lost!
TWICE!!! (2000 and 2002)

(2004)

Look at my post at 10:13 I corrected myself!!!

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Tell you what, come up with where Barack Obama was actually funding ACORN for voter registration fraud. For that matter, the Bush Justice Department has a history of smearing Democrats with fishing expedition investigations, I see nothing more here. Point to where ACORN was acting illegally to get banks to loan money to minorities who wouldn't be qualified for loans otherwise.

Again, Although Obama denounced the actions, he never denounced the man who committed them. I still can't believe people will try to marginalize what Bill Ayers and his buddies did.

As for your beliefs on the Contra's and John McCain, you really need to grow up. Has the United States thrown in at times with bad people, absolutely. The old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just ask the Democrats that help fund and supply the Taliban during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Do I fault them for that, not at all. But trying to compare McCains actions there with Obama's ties are like comparing apples and oranges.

I have to tell you, you are really showing you true colors calling Oliver North a Criminal. If he is a criminal than you really should look at your own party. Also, you would need to call many members of our armed services criminals. Oliver North followed orders. Thats it.

Again, did the Contra's do some bad stuff during that time period, probably so. However, they would probably tell you that anything they did was in retaliation for what the other side was doing. Does that excuse it, no. But that is a fact of life in allot of those types of conflicts. But to the point of John McCain supporting terrorists, that's just rediculous. The poverty that that area of the world suffers from could easily be seen as one of the major problems behind that and many other conflicts. The way they are forced to live due to poverty is shocking.

Although I am not a Bush fan, can you give us an example of where he has had the justiced department smear people?

The Republicans have consistently shown far more concern about ACORN’s voter-registration work, and the Bush administration has pursued indictments against ACORN workers alleged to have broken voter-registration laws. In November 2006, the Justice Department indicted four ex-ACORN employees for fraudulent voter registrations. Later, during the 2007 congressional hearings into the abrupt firings of several U.S. attorneys, former New Mexico prosecutor David Iglesias said he had come under pressure to pursue charges against ACORN employees for “systemic election fraud.” “I was aware that the Justice Department was interested in having U.S. attorneys investigate and prosecute voter fraud going back to 2002,” Iglesias told PBS. “Upon reviewing the evidence and looking at the FBI reports, I concluded, as did the public integrity section at main Justice and at the local FBI office, that we didn’t have any prosecutable cases.” If that is not an attempt to smear an organization by the Bush Justice Department what would you call it?

Similar attacks were launched against ACORN and other voter registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. The bogus charges were at the heart of the U.S. Attorney-gate scandal that led to the resignations of Karl Rove, Attorney General Ablerto Gonzales and other top Justice Department Officials. It turned out that it was the charges that were fraudulent, and that they were part of a systematic partisan agenda of voter suppression. Republican U.S. Attorneys David Iglesias (NM), Todd Graves (MO), and John McKay (WA) all were fired primarily because they refused to prosecute similar bogus charges of “voter fraud.”

The Republicans will beat the Acorn drum until there is another lame reason to move to the next drum. This drum proves they are only concerned about bashing Obama, they are not concerned about the real issues at hand. And where were all this voter fraud inquiries in 2000? You want to talk voter fraud, talk to Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris - they wrote the instructions. Too bad Repubs can't look into their own candidates' closet - and I don't mean log into You Tube or FoxTV. John McCain and Putin are buddies! He is lying about hating the KGB.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020...

A lot of it is coordinated nonsense. In the Nevada case, the ACORN organization there seems on the up and up. The source of the investigation is the fact that this particular ACORN branch does verify registration information. Any information they can't verify, they flag and ask the election officials to investigate. In that case, they asked them to investigate, then called a special meeting to raise concerns that the election officials weren't taking their alerts seriously. In response to that meeting, they sent the election officials the questionable registrations a second time. Then out of the blue, they were supoenaed.... for the records they already supplied TWICE. Then they were raided. If they already supplied the records three times, and initiated the investigation themselves, why raid the office? For show. In Missouri, the election official claimed that their office was being bogged down by hundreds or even thousands of last-minute bogus registrations by ACORN. ACORN actually hadn't turned in any registrations since late August, and were told by the officials three week prior there were only 135 questionable ones, of which 85 were duplicates. So why, in October, weeks later and over a month after they had done anything did this Republican official make this claim?

In Ohio, two Republican officials with ties to McCain said they were starting a investigation. Based on bogus registrations? Nope. They got some phone calls from concerned Republicans asking about voter fraud - asking, not even alledging. So in that case, there isn't even an actual allegation of wrongdoing. So why the investigation, in October, when it just happens that all these other questionable cases are getting big headlines? You connect the dots. In the meantime, thousands of voters are being dropped from voting rolls or are being flagged, most against federal laws. Which is more serious? And, yet, which get the media play? I'm guessing this is a setup for the usual voter intimidation tactics the Republicans employ near election day. Instead of telling minority and poor voters they will be arrested at the polls if they have outstanding parking tickets, this publicity will set up the bogus claim that legitimate voters risk federal charges if they registered through ACORN and try to vote. Note that almost all the allegations are in critical swing states where suppressing the turnout can have an election changing impact, much like the voter suppression efforts in past presidential elections in Florida (2000) and Ohio (2004).

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/...

Here is an interesting article on CNN today that everyone claiming that McCain will be another Bush term. Maybe a vote for Obama will be a vote for less change than what he would have you believe.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/1...

Excellent job of shutting down this 'ACORN' nonsense.

Thank you... IT IT JUST NONSENSE!!!!

This nonsense is not going to help McCain win come November 4.

Obama/Biden '08

Members of McCain's own party has had enough of McCain's dirty campaign.

Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer. He was a community organizer. HE DIDN'T WORK FOR ACORN. Hello?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16738869/

sounds like the Swift Boat Lying Veterans are at it again.

Propaganda never ages.

"Be afraid...Be VERY afraid!'...

Oh, I'm shivering with fear! What a load of rediculous rhetoric you come up with from these fringe internet sites. We have had eight years of disaster, now the American people are eager for a change. It will indeed come this election day.

You conservatives thrive on lies. No one, Obama included, has every suggested that our guns be confiscated and he has never called for a restriction on free speech, which is what banning the NRA's right to advertise would be.

This is just another in a long line of "conservative lies of the week". We should hang Karl Rove for treason and high crimes against the American people. His propaganda has brought us 2 terms of Bush and now they are trying to sell us McSame. This country can't afford it

O'Bama until just before the Supreme Court's ruling on the second amendment that the second amendment did not allow individuals to own guns only the military, national guard or the police. This is the same kind of system Hitler had in place shortly before going house to house to collect the guns so the people being ruled could be controlled through intimidation. An armed citizenry is essential for a democracy to flourish. An unarmed citizenry is essential for a dictatorship. O'Bama believes in the latter based on his previous statements about the second amendment. You do not have to believe me, the information is out there. This does not mean going back to O'Bama's website for the current statement but to the past for his consistent opposition to an armed and free populace. His restircation on free speech was to try to stop ads run against him off the air through use of the police. Sounds fairly straightforward to me. His consiistant approach is to try and silence his critics by any means neccesary. It is how censorship works.

No, that's not true...obama never said ! take the rifles or hand guns away. And there is no reason for any person to own mach.-guns etc .etc

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met...

Obama has made NO attempt to silence the free speech of people in Missouri. Stop spreading lies. There are already ethics laws (slander and libel) on books in Missouri. The problem here is that the Republican governor does NOT want those laws to apply to Obama, so he is making a big deal about it. The governor of Missouri would rather have voters deceived by lies about Obama so they will vote for McCain.By the way, McCain also has truth squads. I don't hear you complaining about that. But, like a true Republican hypocrite, you complain about Obama's truth squad.

http://www.google.com/search?q=McCain....

read what!!!!!

During Barack’s career in the Illinois and United States senates, he proudly stood to defend the rights of hunters and sportsmen while doing everything he could to protect children — including his own two daughters — from illegal gun violence. But the NRA-ILA is distributing a dishonest and cowardly flyer that makes confrontational accusations and runs away from verifying them, pushing deceptive claims without the facts to back them up. Readers have to look on a web page to find the supposed facts behind these disgraceful attacks, but the “proof” falls very short. The non-partisan Factcheck.org has even demonstrated how shameful the NRA’s deception is:
The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama’s stated position as “rhetoric” and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret “plan.” Said an NRA spokesman: “We believe our facts.“… [T]he NRA has cherry-picked, twisted and misrepresented Obama’s record to come up with a bogus “plan.”

Barack has clearly spelled out his position on guns to Field & Stream:

“I am very mindful of the fact that sportsmen in America may have gone hunting with their fathers, their grandfathers, their mothers, their grandmothers, and that this is part of a tradition and a way of life that has to be preserved. And there’s nothing that I will do as president of the United States that will in any way encroach on the ability of sportsmen to continue that tradition.”

Karl Rove would be so proud of you. This is “swiftboating” at its finest. By the way, McCain also has truth squads. I don't hear you complaining about that. But, like a true Republican hypocrite, you complain about Obama's truth squad.

http://www.google.com/search?q=McCain...

texas democrat. 2 things
1: The second amendment is not about hunting, it is about the rights of free people to keep and bears arms to remain free. To try to link this to hunters only is disingenuous and misleading.
2. O'Bama has stated in the past that he is opposed to people having guns because he states that the second amendment is about the military and police, not the individual. He had to change his approach after the Supreme Court ruled that the DC gun ban was unconstituional. He now is trying to limit our second amendment rights through tighter guns laws. This is exactly what the ruling was against, overregulation of the individual right to bear arms so that we might live in a free society able to defend ourselves from criminals or a corrupt government. These attempts to restrict ownership of weapons from people is how Hilter got rid of the guns in Germany to enhance his control over Germany before trying to impose his will on other countries. It is a common approach of dictators, which is why the founding Fathers put the second amendment in the bill of rights. Even Chris Matthews, yes the same man who feels a tingling go up his leg when he hears O'Bama speak, said that if liberals interpreted the second amendment the way they do the first, then everyone would be issues a firearm at birth. If you want to believe his statement of the day on this issue feel free. I prefer to retain the right to defend myself and my family from both criminals and the government if the need arises.

Your nonsense will not fool anyone. I have no idea why people think he wants to take away all guns. No average person or hunter needs an AK-47. I do support people's rights to have guns but the NRA goes too far in that they feel there should be no regulation on gun ownership whatsoever, they are way too extreme. When you live in the country there is a whole different take on gun ownership because you don't see guns being used for criminal purposes as much as in the urban areas. People in urban areas who deal with guns in the hands of criminals and gun violence feel differently.

Obama Supports Individual Gun Rights

Link
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?...

Is the ONLY way to handle "gun control" to say YES/NO ? Seems to be if you have a brain, use it, to figure out what Obama said: "The city of Chicago has gun laws, so does Washington, DC," Obama said. "The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gun safety laws to deal with gangbangers and random shootings on the street isn't born out by our Constitution." Can't get through "can't" and "isn't" in that sentence? He IS talking about "gun regulation" and he IS also saying that the answer to the Second Amendment issue DOES NOT SETTLE THE ARGUMENT. SO, there is more to think about than just "Are you" or "Aren't you." He is clearly for gun regulation.

The problems stem for the psyche of this country. We are literally sacrificing our own people whether it's soldiers dying for our right to drive gas guzzling SUV's or what have you. This is the most violent country in the world. In 2004 there were 16,137 murders in the US according to FBI statistics. In 2007 that number was estimated 20,000!!! Who needs Al-Qeada when we do way more damage to our own?

Obama's position on guns is not only practical, but constitutionally sound. Your attempt to misrepresent his position was pretty lame.

Using your line of thought, then it is ok for me to keep my Howitzer for my protection. Right to bear arms does not say handguns or only semi-automatic rifles, right to bear arms means all arms. Where does the line get drawn, can my eight year old get a license for a concealed handgun? No, but I can and have.

Obama supports the individual's use of guns to protect their families. He said: “I believe there is a Second Amendment right. I think it is an individual right. I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms.”

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How do you know the veterans of the swift boat adds were lying? That is simply stupid. They told thier story as they saw it. Just because they testify against your parties so call super war hero, doesn't make them liars. You weren't there so you don't know what the truth is.

This is interesting to me, since the abortion issue was brought up. Some of the same folks who don't want the government interfering with businesses and bailouts and caps on executive salaries (socialism in business, you know), are some of the same ones that want to socialize womens' bodies. The government's lack of intervention in business matters clearly has an impact on our national and world economy, as we can clearly see now. I just don't see the impact of what a woman does with her own uterus has on someone like, say, Megawatt's daily life.

Why would John McCain pick Saddam Hussein's lobbyist? Incompetence - today's GOP has managed to accumulate the greatest concentration of incompetence in history. His staff worked with FOREIGN TERRORISTS and took their money....

McCain Transition Chief Aided Saddam In Lobbying Effort
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10...

Good point. I saw this tonight and it could be explosive regarding Saddam's lobbyist as McCain's transistion Chief. Of course with McCain down 14 percent now, how much worse could it get for the Republicans?

Another on for you...

For a group that's committed so much "voter fraud" for so long (if you're gullible enough to believe the lies that RNC/FNC has been telling you) it's mighty strange that, as News One notes, "McCain attended an ACORN convention just two years ago." The once-honorable Republican's campaign has even seen fit to produce a video smear ad, attempting to tar Obama with "associations" to ACORN, and alleging the group has committed "massive voter fraud" to boot! (They've yet to produce any actual evidence for that, unfortunately.) But more than just attending the ACORN-sponsored February 2006 rally, ACORN confirms in a statement today that McCain was actually the keynote speaker! So now, they wonder, why it is that McCain seems to have "lost that loving feeling?" "It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans. Maybe it is out of desperation that Senator McCain has forgotten that he was for ACORN before he was against ACORN," noted Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer of ACORN. "We expected Senator McCain to support our efforts to give voice to millions of Americans who have never participated in an election before," she continued. "We are surprised at his efforts to vilify an organization that, until recently, he saw as an ally."

Just saw it a little bit ago. Thanks. Now that's going to be a real surprise if McCain raises anything regarding ACORN in the last debate tomorrow. It would be shear political suicide if he were to do so. I'm kind of hoping McCain raises the Ayers nonsense in the debate so he can look like a complete ignoramous. We shall see.

It funny how your so called Maverick tries to tie Obama to ACORN.

So does it matter that McCain attended an rally co-sponsored by ACORN in February 2006? I guess he was for ACORN before he wa against it.

But wait! Since he attended this meeting, he was meeting with people who palled around with Obama......who pals around with Ayers the Terrorist....

Therefore: McCain is good friends with terrorists!!!!

McCain will redefine the term "Maverick" to mean someone who can't control his own gun and ends up shooting himself.

McCain's campaign just can't get a break. Each time he tries to through something at Obama, it comes back and hits him in the face. twice.

The nut never falls too far from the acorn tree, eh? Perhaps the onset of OldTimer's has Johnny forgetting things a bit.